Transcript with Captain Hunter

Transcript with Captain Hunter

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Welcome to Real. Raw with Dr B this nationally published author and pastor has made it, his life’s work to helping people strengthened their relationship with God themselves and each other. With 25 years as a licensed counselor, coupled with his own life experiences with the ups and downs of married and single life. It’s like having a counseling session right in your own home. So without any further ado, it’s time for Real Raw With Dr B old mine.

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Goodness. This is doctor B. You guys know I’d come on regularly to talk about issues of our relationship. And I am honored. Yes. I am honored to have the one and only a good old friend of mine that we kind of reconnected. Captain Lawrence Hunter how are you doing? Sorry. I’m doing well, sir. Thank you for having me. It’s been a while. So thanks for letting me come and talk to you again. So thanks for having me. I’m really honored that you read and write well, I’ll let you hear, sir.

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So give people some background what you do, sir, and the things, your, your service and what you’re doing now, they check. So I am a retired Police Captain from the state of Connecticut. I did 24 years of service there, 24 years, 24 years, a long time, man. And God bless you, sir. All right. So I did 24 years doing that currently. I retired and I am now the host of a podcast called Captain Hunter’s podcast. Captain Hunter that?

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That’s a such a great title that I was actually, I was actually not very pleased with it. And then I put out an episode and they called it that, but I had initially said, I’m going to change it to something else. And then another friend of mine, he’s like, Hey, listen, I liked that. I liked that. It’s cool. It’s cool with me, man. Cool with me, man. Yeah. So, so I changed. So, you know, long story short so that I also set up a consulting business that I’m looking to grow a L M H Police training and consulting. What does the train talk about, sir? So I’m talking about leadership.

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I do implicit bias training and diversity inclusion, training, implicit bias, implicit bias would be there’s whenever someone meets someone else, you automatically have these reactions that are in your mind, right? Implicit being that, what goes on in the inside explicit would be that what goes only outside, figure this out for that distinction as a thank you, sir. So implicit biases are just reactions that people have now. People often think of when I taught this class, I was an instructor at the Waterbury police department. And so when I taught the class, I not only talked about race because that’s, that’s always the elephant in the room, right.

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But people have a tendency to be more caring for people who are good looking, people who are tall and conversely, they will be more negative towards those people who are shorter fatter. So, so I’m gonna put them on the spot. So if someone saw me, what will they say about me? That incredibly tall, good looking man paid her 40th. Alright, so, so, so I always talked about that and I always thought it was very important for police officers to understand this concept because you don’t want a police officer, who’s going to pull you over because you’re black or because you’re Hispanic or because you’re Asian or pull you over, even if you’re a beautiful woman, just to try to get your number.

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Right. And you don’t, let’s just say that everything being equal, the officer just saw a car that ran a red light and doesn’t know the occupant of the car. Got it. He also walks up to the car. We don’t want them to be more likely to give a ticket to someone who’s uglier or, or heavier because they have an implicit bias against those particular stereotypes. Right. So I T, so that’s, that’s part of the reason that, and I, so I made sure that I talked about all those types of things. Now, implicit bias is obviously very heavy in today’s climate.

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We’re dealing with that’s why I have you on the show today, sir. So yeah, absolutely. So, so that’s there for it. That’s what I, what I teach. That’s what I talked to at the whatever police department State certified instructor and all that, and continued on teaching diversity and inclusion, teaching leadership classes on gun report, writing for different agencies who are looking at private agencies for looking to, you know, Metro to Dr reports that they may get subpoenaed for are up to par up to snuff, to CT standards, teaching a women’s safety course fairly soon.

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So there’s a lot of different kinds of arenas. So you have a lot of technicals. Yes, sir. Yeah. Yeah. But, but mostly it’s just about consulting and policing and all that, but it’s not only appropriately. I want to stress that people who are not police officers, right. So I’m actually putting together a leadership class or, but supervision class, let’s just say you work at McDonald’s and you get, you get assigned to be the manager. God how do you, how do you deal with that? Your 23, 24, 25 years old, you got people older people that are older than you and I. That was, that actually happened to me when I was first promoted to supervisor, to the rank, a first line supervisor or Sergeant I was 27 years old.

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Wow. And I was now at that time, it was year 2000. So your 2000, okay. Now people had been, now I’m supervising people who had been Cox for 30 years. I’m 27. They had been a cop for 30 years. So I’ve got to tell them what to do, tell them their report and it wasn’t up to snuff and on. And so it was incredibly, incredibly difficult. So how’d you get past that? How did you manage that? That’s a, that’s a good story right there. Yeah. Yeah. It took a lot of work. It took a lot of work. I’d had a lot of conversations with a lot of different senior officers and ultimately it just became a part of just, you just got to kind of do it.

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I mean, and it wasn’t easy for me. I mean, my personality wasn’t that way. I’m not the type of person. Just go tell him people who are older than me, you know, what to do and where to go. Right. So it was something I had to grow into. And it took a lot of effort, a lot of work about a mental, the trainer training over night, over different nights of thinking about how I’d handle this, analyzing myself getting results. I want, of course, getting yelled at by the upper, above the upper echelon saying, Hey, listen, and get your guys together. <inaudible> would do it. But, but it was not easy. So anyone who’s out there, who’s listening, who’s going through something like that.

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I can certainly understand. That’s why I want to put together a leadership course. That would talk about how to deal with these types of things. Not just the law enforcement with just quickly get people, your phone number, your website, how they can contact you. Sure. So my website is Hunter police training.com. That’s Real up on Hunter Police training.com. The email addresses a little bit longer. It’s Hunter Police consulting@gmail.com. So Hunter, I need to talk to your marketing. Yeah, well that’s actually a perfect person will set on my website, said listen, and make sure it’s all the same.

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Got it. And I did consistently. Yes. And I didn’t listen. So, so that’s one way to do it. Hunter Police consulting@gmail.com is email. I also have another email that I use mostly specifically for the podcast and that is CPT El Hunter just think of Captain rebates. Captain CPT. soHunter@gmail.com. Okay. So that’s, that’s cool. So I’m on, I can come to be funny cause your number coming into a little bit young and then will County. So, so some offices, none that, you know, none that I know will get about tickets, but only ticket.

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We didn’t want them to do it now. I don’t, I off the top of my head, I don’t know if that was happening, but I certainly know that people have been more divisive to have biases and they’re more preferable <inaudible> they will talk to people in a different manner. If you’re a good look, taller shop or, you know, and things like that. So, and of course, if you have a racial bias, that’s on that story, right. We don’t get into, but it’s all, but it all deals with bikes. And the reason I always talked about that is because when I began talking with the police officers, right. Training them, I don’t want them to be immediately be turned off because I’ll call it.

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Here’s another cultural diversity class. Here’s another, you know, black class taught by a black guy saying stop being racist. Right. So if I could get them to see that this, that this phenomenon number one is in nature, human nature. And number two is, can be overcome if we just talk about it and just realize that you act in an implicit bias. In other ways, when you’re at the grocery store, you, you may be more help, likely to help a beautiful short girl, because, because you know, she can’t reach the top show. You’ll likely go and hit gonna help you out. Right. If the person isn’t that, you know, that, that doesn’t have those features, then you meet more likely just to walk by them.

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But as police officers or nurses or doctors, you can’t be that way when you’re performing your job, you have to be fair, equitable in your treatment. So I tried to really have officers understand that sense of so, so, so, so, so let’s, let’s take a band when it comes to relationship. So, so when, so when people are going through issues, is it best just to look at it for what it is or do sometimes they bring in their past into those conversations. How does that work with, with people that you think guy on my relationship counselor, we’re trying to help somebody out here.

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So, so I think that people always will have a baggage baggage or biases for their past. Right. I was talking to another friend of mine the other day and he’s, you know, unfortunately his last relationship didn’t work out. I mean, he had some issues. And so therefore he says today in his new relationship, he has those same trust issues. So that yet. Yeah. So it’s baggage and, and, and so, so a little bit of your job. So how do you help an officer deal with his bias?

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I mean, how do you help them? Do you help them see the greater good? You talk about karma. How do you help that person see things from different parts? I think that your liver, the fabric. Yeah. Yeah. So I think that the most important thing is to help is the, have them understand number one, what it is, what we’re talking about and understand that it’s in nature, human nature doesn’t mean you have sort of flawed individual because you have these thoughts about X. Right, right, right. And so, and then I try to get to understand that the oath of office and the, and the importance of the office.

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Ah that’s I see. Okay. Okay. I’m thinking of this job. I see now, okay. You took this job to, to deal with, to it, to help the public. You’re not in the public. You cannot allow your biases, prejudices, etc. To cloud your thinking, cloud your judgment. Cause your reactions. And so if you are, then you’re probably in the wrong line of work and you need to reconsider how you are. So that was always my approach. So that’s, that’s how, that’s how I know that, that, that that’s, that’s, that’s very powerful because, and then we all, I think you said, correct.

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All of us have our own personal biases. I’m telling myself so, so yesterday, cause I like tell them. So, so yesterday I was at Hartford and my Hartford office. And so I was about go to a pump, pump gas. And so I’m back into my little Honda. You, I don’t, I don’t have expensive car. And so I get up my car, I put on my mask

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And this young person just came out of nowhere in these tiny bug bugs

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Motorcycle. They can get on my nerves, but they make a lot of noise. And I always hear about department of Derek’s here.

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So now in my flesh,

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Exactly. Some very choice words, but in my spirit, as you know, I can’t go to the counseling service with a black guy that that would not look good. So I had to back up because he was young, not that respectful, but I had to like kind of chill myself. So, so it’s like, how do you help people do that second thought before they react? And then of course in your case, so it’s, I hate small bikes and they got no tag on.

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They no light

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On them and they dare you to hit them.

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<inaudible>. So I think that that, that, you know, you just ha you have to develop self control. You have to develop, work on it, do a self analysis and see where you are. How often do you fly off the handle or the Police always coming to me, I’m always getting a fight with my wife. I’m always mad and disagreement with these people. And that, that takes a lot of work and a lot of mental maturity to look at yourself and say, Hey, you know what? I can’t do this. You thought this to yourself. As an internal dialogue with solvent said, I can’t have a black guy.

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And probably some other things about, you know, if I’d whooped us, dude, I’m going to, the police are going to call pick and all them. I listened. You always, you always gotta be very confident when you have to say to yourself, when I beat this guy up to think that that’s good. That’s good. Because if you walk around thinking, you know what, if I lose, it’s like, you’re going to know exactly. You have to beat, you have a confidence about your training. And I was also a defensive tactics instructor, and we taught them to B what don’t you do?

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Like you got a Martha Stewart on top of meals. That’s great, man. So it’s very important to, to, to have the frame of mind that you’re going to succeed in whatever you set your heart. All right. So we probably do at least two podcasts a day because we’re going to talk about more about Police and then on the next seven parked about brothers and brother, you know, and black. So I don’t know, you’re probably tired of hearing this question, but I ask it to you people.

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There is no script. There’s nothing here, but myself and his great man Captain, Hunter retired. With <inaudible> Dr <inaudible> existence, man. So I need private tidy. People asked me this question, but what should you do when you stop by Police? Sure. So what you should do is you should try to pull off to the side of the road in a safe location, right?

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If it’s at night, I try to make sure you on the street light and everything like that. Okay. Pull over, roll your windows, roll your window down. Even though the rear end passenger windows on both windows, both in the ones in the back half way. I heard that before. Yeah. You really want to roll them down. People that have heard that before people have turned out on cars and I got some wisdom. And so what, what does, what it does is that it helps to put you off sororities and shows them that there’s nothing to fear or be fearful of in the back.

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Right. Or it allows them to see that my Police got a little toddler in the back. We don’t need to escalate this kind of thing. Right? So you wanna keep your hands on the steering wheel. Okay. Or, or just in playing with you people. And if you have passengers, have them, you know, make sure that your hands are in the pockets or fold it up or anything, just have them out. They don’t have to be on a wheel right there. They can be on their lap, but just make sure that we Oxo comes up. Can you see? And you can see your hands, right? If you wanna, with one hand as video recording, that’s by your passenger.

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That’s totally fine. If you want to have, you know, some that allow is absolutely allowed. It’s absolutely allowed. Okay. I do know that a lead officer said, tell you, put your phone down and stop recording me. This has been established in numerous. So there is not state by state. This is not well, well, let me, let me qualify that it is a state by state thing. And as far as it has not gone to the U S Supreme court, can we do it in Connecticut? Well, I want people to know. I want people to know that I don’t know the particular CT, but I want to say it’s the, the upper North East, East CT I want it.

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I want to say it’s a ninth circuit court. God I could be wrong about this, but the number CT. So what happens is there’s jurisdiction. One of the I’s jurisdiction says, said, you can, you can record and you can record to my knowledge has not been passed by it by the us Supreme court, but I could be wrong on and go. I don’t want somebody to <inaudible> smart people on here. Right. So smart. So, so you can record. So yeah.

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So, so before you even get in the car, you really shouldn’t know that your car is legitimate, right? What do I mean by legitimate? Does it have any lights that are out there? How your brakes working and not just, not just for Police sake, but I’m getting a car. Are you driving around, you know, 70, 80 miles on the highway, you want to make sure that the car is going to stop when you want it to stop. Right? So you want to make sure that if it gets dark on and you can see, right. So this is about safety. So, so I’ll make sure that you, before you get in the car, make sure your car is in order physically. And then second of all, make sure that your car is in order. As far as all the paperwork.

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Do you have your license on you? Do you have your registration and insurance on sometimes with Geico, some I don’t wanna put on blast or anyone, but with sometimes with payments and money, but someone should have said put it like this. Some insurance companies, well, you know, you can have the app on your phone and you can pull that up. Correct. So, so just be mindful that the Connecticut state law, the most state laws require that the, that the information be passed over right. To the officer. Right? So you can’t just hold it up and say, Hey, take a look at it.

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Your officer has the ability to examine that information all. Alright. So, I mean, that was, I backed many offices, that question. And you’re the first one to say, roll down the window and makes logical sense to me because your role on that, you showing the officer, I ain’t got none and you don’t need to be belligerent and whatever. So that’s slumber wisdom. Yes, sir. Thank you.

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So, so as so in the landscape, you know, Mexico and the landscape of things what’s relationship between police and community right now. Oh, it’s it’s in the gutter. It’s in the toilet. Yeah, definitely. We all understand. I had a good conversation with the, with the, one of my former coworkers, because your mind, your mind last night, and they’re all very upset. They’re all very, you know, they’re, they’re looking forward to, to these times, right? Moving past these times, they are very upset.

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And I think the good officers are upset about cause bill was obviously like, yeah, yeah, yeah. They understand. They understand that their, that relationships that are very low, very poor. And so they want to work on what they can do in order to gain the trust of the public. How do you think that’s going to happen? Don’t say this it’s amazing to me how one officer who happens to be white can change the entire climate policing. Yeah. Well, or was it just there? And he just was the, the, the feather that brought the camera.

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He was, he was absolutely the feather that broke the camel’s back. Remember the black lives matter change has been going on since, since, since, since Trayvon Martin. Correct. So this is just another line and I’ve heard people say particularly, and I don’t like to get into the right and left debates, but mostly those on the right are saying that B numbers behind police killings of unarmed black men are not that high. And they’re absolutely correct about that. I think there was like nine last year, whereas it was 20 candidates Owens is correct.

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Well, I’m sorry. Alright, so, so it is true. So what’s the text you said against the With nine. I believe there was nine in 2000, 19 unarmed black men who were killed right in versus 20 white, 20, 20 white. Wow. Right. And so yes. So people don’t really about that. And that is a legitimate point. The problem is, is that even with the studies that show that white, that, that police officers are more reluctant to use to, to shoot at unarmed black men or black men, the same studies reveal that the police officers are quicker to go to hands quicker, to be insulting, rough speak and everything like that.

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So it is not just the, the violence of chilling that people are protesting. It’s the system in general, right? It’s the court system. It’s the appearance of non-transparency when there’s an investigation. It’s when I go to complain about the police that, that nothing is done about those particular officers. Got it. When I complain nothing’s happening. And when I, when I, and the officers are talking to us, we’re out there, Oh, you’re over Police, they’re throwing my kids against the car for walking down the middle of the street where this is not happening in white neighborhoods.

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So I want to take the focus off of just, just to kill him. And this is about the interaction of Police within, within black and Brown communities. Okay. That’s that? So, so, so what’s happening here is that the killings are definitely more with white people in America, but for us, it’s the killings and the attitude toward black America. That’s an idea. That’s a good way to put it, is that and can end the, the, just the overall narrative.

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Well, I don’t know if I would say narrative. I would say that it’s, it’s how the police interact with me. If I’m going to pull you over, I just talked about, we just talking about implicit bias. I want to make sure that you want to be talked to as a man, right? Same thing you want the same way that you dealt with that guy on the bike. And he’s young, who is this guy you want to be talked to as a man respectfully. Right? And so that doesn’t happen. And not that I trust another one would say it doesn’t happen, but it doesn’t seem to be happening, or at least in the minds of people now, whether this is really playing out in America, this is, we can debate that.

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But this is certainly the perception that is going on. And as I mentioned, there are studies that show that this is the rough speak in deep, the quickness in accelerating, right on an officer’s part to go into hands. It occurs quicker than white communities

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And a very detailed conversation here. I, I feel like this is 60 minutes to black out.

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You can stay for part two of our podcast. Absolutely. Okay. So you all black, last time I checked, you know, so you are black, I am black

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DNA.

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And you also, every time police officer, how is that combination with your community, with your family? How did that play out? Yeah, so the black community has not been a very embracive of some officers. Sure. So being a, being an officer use concede so they can see what is going on in certain communities and how people are treated and then versus what goes on in other communities on how they are treated.

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So there becomes this dichotomy and everything. So if I could tell this quick story, so I had a, we, we were working on or, or getting training and gangs, and I’ll never forget this. I was fairly young officer w we were getting, I don’t even think I was promoted yet. So I had to be, you know, maybe a senior officer at the time. And so we were talking about, you know, just the different gangs that are here in the city of Waterbury. Right. And so they’re, but they’re laying out these different gangs. I’m not going to date, you know, but mostly black and Hispanic gang.

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Okay. So after the class, I mean, it was like maybe a two hour class and we did breaks and stuff. So after the class, I call it an instructor and I say, how come you can talk about hell’s angels or looks good, or, or, or the other, you know, other motorcycle guys. Good. That’s good. Well, you know, that’s just not something we that’s good. So, so this, so somebody has to be in the room in the room of commanders and the movie will have about city managers to say, Hey, listen, you can’t always just focus off on this.

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There was another problem. So that, that is, that is the job of, of a black police officer, particularly black leadership to, to be that voice in the room that says, Hey, listen, if we’re going to target crime, we’re going to target at all right. You can’t just crack down on the drug dealers on us on a certain corner, or whatever’s going on by, by street drug dealers. I mean, right. And not go after to the mafia guys or whoever. Right, right. We’re going to get the drug dealers, we going to get all the drug dealers. Right. Including the ones that the owner of Dr was on the street going exactly.

1 (25m 45s):
Right. Exactly. Say, say, say again, you’re hitting some very powerful topics that people are not having that conversation with them. And as a therapist, I see a lot people with raw emotions, whether they’re tearing down the neighborhood, whether going out to other people who may not have been involved at all, and these raw emotions for us as a people, I think, as it’s coming out and it’s such a way that it’s, I think it’s negating what we’re trying to get, which is, you know, what, treat me as an individual, not as a full race, treat me as who I am, because

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Believe it or not people

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And tell them about it. There are some bad black people don’t tell nobody her in there, but, but, but,

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But the way the landscape is there, Oh, we don’t know Police we don’t want Police. Yes. I do want Police it Pooky, calm it. Come and take my

1 (26m 44s):
Car. What police come and take him to Pooky Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray. Ray’s behind. But Ray is really a child to Pookie. I’m blind to that though. And what’s interesting about that point is, is that the police absolutely demand that they will say in a heartbeat, listen, don’t treat me like, like Derek Shovan treated this particular person. That’s correct. So they understand that. Absolutely understand that. So, so I think that it’s only fair that the black community say we demand the same thing.

1 (27m 15s):
Yeah. Don’t treat me like Pookey Ray and correct me as dr. Brantley especially treat me as dr. Brantley came on a roll call me, tell people how to reach you again, sir. I’m looking at that time. Yeah. All right. I’ll tell you how they can reach on a good stuff. I’m sure. So a couple of email addresses CPT elHunter@gmail.com, CPT El Hunter, gmail.com, LMS L M H Police training and consulting services as my website Hunter Police Hunter Police training as a website, actually elements Police training and consulting company with a business guy Hunter Police training is the website.com and Hunter Police consulting is the email address.

1 (28m 3s):
And so you can reach me on any of those other platforms. I’m also on Facebook or podcast. What’s your Facebook. Facebook has Captain Hunter podcast. Captain can candidate the Captain and go Capt. Well, listen, it’s it’s it’s really just the persona that sir, one last question. And then we’ll we’ll stop. And we’ll come back in and talk about black men stuff will probably be maybe talk about some, you know, some Police stuff put on by some blue and stuff. So what if someone who is black minority black and Brown wants to get into police force was the first besides contacting.

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Well, that was the first thing. First thing you need, black, white, Hispanic. Come see Captain Hunter I will walk you through the process. I am not, I am not expensive when it comes to that particular process, because I want people to become police officers. So therefore, if you’re working wherever you’re working and don’t have a job, I make it affordable. So you can understand the process and what you have to do. I do a background with you, help me fill out your resume. And what’s the minimal someone needs to do before they even, I mean, if they got distant and raised, and I say, you know what, bro, Brantley, this may not be the occupation.

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I know you want to do it. But what’s the biggest thing. Is there a criminal record that no, you can’t be a people’s people’s records are often even driving records. Believe me once going to be given officers the ability to drive fast and go through red lights. You don’t want them hitting some kid, right? You don’t want them doing your day, man. I’ve never thought about saw a driving record. Could stop me from become police officers. Absolutely. Absolutely. So wanna watch your driving record and watch your, you know, arrest record, obviously, if you have,

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I had a burger two years ago, but I wasn’t scared and I got a warrant.

1 (29m 56s):
It’s not going to wear a hat. So, you know, watch all that kinda stuff. And sometimes you gotta watch the friends that you keep, you know, because back that I explained that will make sense to me, but right. So, so, so the friends they keep, we, we do a thorough background check. Now what’s going to happen in the background check is they’re going to visit your neighbors, your jobs, any previous landlords you had and all that kind of stuff. Right? So having negative influences or friends around you will not necessarily in and of itself, knock you out. I said, well, yeah, but it certainly is a, a feather towards the other side.

1 (30m 28s):
Right? It’s it’s a hash Mark. Right? So it’s something else to watch because you know, they don’t want you to be compromised. Right? So, so that was one thing you have to watch. You have to be a U S citizen. You have to have, at least, at least in some States or some departments, you have to have a high school diploma. Some departments want you to have college degree or a 60 credits a minimum. Do you think if we had awful cost degrees, that would help us out a little bit? I absolutely think that I absolutely think that I actually am advocating that police officers or police departments increased the length of time of their academies from the general six to seven to eight months into a full two year program where you graduated with her.

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That would definitely, and then that in that time

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Make me look good.

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And that guy in that time, we, you could have officers visiting homeless shelters. You could have officers in parks, you can have them visit a soup kitchen. So you could have a volunteering’s training and they will get to know the community instead of coming from some town that they didn’t grow up and being thrust into, particularly in minority neighborhoods where they don’t understand the culture, the people, you could get them to know people and, and know what the landscape of the land third going to do. And of course they would brush up on their interview and cherry gate skills and all the other skills.

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I didn’t necessarily with a police officer last question and not be done. How do we deal with nepotism in police departments? Excellent. And point that comes from the top. You have to number one outside of nepotism, the big word for saying, I let bug make, make brothers. And my son and my wife don’t know he’s my son, either my wife don’t know

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I was, I was wanting to be great.

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So, so that comes from the top. You, the only way to stop that is to me, there’s to a vote in mayors and other city leaders who are going to stop that kind of nonsense. Okay. And daddy said I was nonsense. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. That’s, that’s the only way I agree that it’s a problem in many departments. It is horrible problem. And that’s some of the things that the background investigation should help to read out with them who your family, friends are in the study. Others so, so you had the vote on people and demanding to write letters to the mayor and et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

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One more question, please. Fire away. Okay. I don’t know my time. This is some good stuff yet. So thing I like about podcasts is <inaudible>, this is very controversial. So I’ll give my opinion at first and then give yours. So if the police officer tells you to do something and you don’t comply and you stop running, you stop being

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<inaudible>. In my opinion, that’s not smart.

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Yes. The opposite should be

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B professional and all that. But you start getting the guy’s face running. It’s not going to escalate what he made.

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She may be off and make sure that because of Malik, female. Well, I don’t think there’s any way about it. It’s going to escalate. Should I be political, right? Yeah. So I agree with that. I mean, why are you getting in the police officer’s face? Yeah. So, so I don’t have to talk about Police and what they should do. But the other side of my podcasts I’m on now is talking about With what’s your deal? What do you ask me? How we should, what we should do more stop that’s important. And you can’t go around one income. Police mouthing off the Police and refusing to obey their orders.

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You know, Willy nilly. Do they have a right to do that? I don’t think so. Personally, those whoever right. To do that, the police officer, I mean, we in a free world, but yeah. Yeah. So, so there is a certain level that the courts have recognized that that officers have to number one, have a fixed skin and they also have to understand, you know, their, their job. And you know, this country was built on the idea that, that the King and the government are not the be all end all that’s correct. That’s that’s really, they rebelled against the King.

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Right. Cause they didn’t want that English. Right. Right. So, so your right to say, officer, I don’t like what you’re doing to walk away from an officer when he stopped you, you ask him in your mind being detained right now. And he says, no, then you can leave. Right? So, so you can leave if yes, if he says, if he says you’re not free to leave, then you’re not free to leave. You just want to ask him politely, why am I being detained? Why am I being stopped? Why am I not free to leave? And he should be able to give you an explanation, not because I said so, and not because I’m investigating something.

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Well, what are you investigating? Are you, are you accusing me of crime? You know? So you have to, so they should be able to articulate to tell you why you’re being detained. So if, if, once again, if none of this is satisfactory to you, you still can’t leave. If he’s telling you, you can’t leave, you guys State, you have to stay. But at that point you should memorize their, their badge number as to get their car number asked to speak to a supervisor, noticed the time of day you are, what street you’re on. All that is very important.

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When, when, and if you want to file a complaint against the officer, they have to know what street you were on. What time of day? What do you officer look like? What was his badge number? What was the card with any other officers, their and everything like that. This has been very, very informative. So we definitely want to have you come back. I appreciate it. I appreciate that. I didn’t talk so much about the grievance on my Police stuff. And I’m only a police chaplain for Marvin tug and state troopers. I don’t know as much as I talk as much. I’m trying to give my, my, my guests as much blood as possible.

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So thanks again again. Tell people your, your website have they can contact you. So one more time again. Sure. The business is L M H Police training and consulting. The website is Hunter Police training.com email Hunter Police consultant. I got to work on that. Police gmail.com or CPT elHunter@gmail.com. So I’ve on Facebook elements, Police training and consulting Facebook, and also Captain hunters podcast.

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One of the podcasts come on and where can they find your podcast? So, so my podcasts like you, I do a live episode every Monday at 7:30 PM. Eastern standard. T heard somebody coming on your show too. So we’ve got some, some guy, some relationship. Once again, this is doctor B executive producer. Henry will give you more information about my business, all glory to God, hope this blessed you and encourage you and keep you going on until next T.

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